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I think, Andy, you are one of the few people I've read who see the pointlessness that surrounds the speculation of Deckard himself being a replicant. If you go down that route then the film loses all it's disruptive and disonant power. Who really cares if a robot falls in love with another robot, or is bettered by a later model? Even if it's a robot with more evolved morals rather than implanted responses, it's still just a robot verses robot story - Terminator territory, surely?

I have watched the film in all it's versions more times than I can count. In fact I have come to loathe Scotts' eternal tinkering, he's fucked it up by his unimaginative "Of course Deckard is a replicant" stance. In 1982 I left the cinema quite blown away, and that was from watching the original voice over, tacked on happy ending version, which most people consider the least worthy. However, over the years I have come to prefer this flawed version to the later two edits, because for all the faults it leaves the 'Deckard as replicant' question just as a logical and rather obvious potential question, a "what if" without throwing it in your face. The audience isn't that dumb, give them some respect please. Anyway the 'Deckard as replicant' reading begs the question, why make a replicant Blade Runner so impotent compared to the quarry it is supposed to be gunning down?

In 1982 when I first saw the original version in the local Plaza it was the way the film took away the ground on which you stood, I remember afterwards walking back to the car on Oxted Station Road East and thinking " I could be a replicant too". - and ironically some 13 odd years later I was struck by the fact that as a woman who had transitioned and undergone 'The Operation' I was a 'skin job' too. Which, to cut a very long story short, is one of the (lesser) reasons I choose my name. And yes Mr Deckard I turned out to be a lesbian.

The scene after Rachael has retired Leon and gone back with Deckard to his appartment a second time (this is after she has realised she is not a genetic human and has turned renegade) is the pivotal point in the film for me. Having just saved Deckards life by killing Leon, Deckard asks Rachael "Shakes? I get 'em bad...goes with the business" To which she replies "I'm not in the business, I am the business". She then asks Deckard if he ever took the voight Kampf test himself. This is a rather touching moment when Rachael, having just killed Leon is distraught at having killed. In her weakest and most fragile of moments, afterall she has hours just before learnt that she is not a 'real' human being at all. All the self assurance she previously displayed is gone. Yet at the mpment of her greatest weakness when her back is against the wall she is remorseful, and, arguably is equally as human as anyone else so defined in the film. It is at this moment that she alludes to (rather than out right accusing him) Deckards' comparative lack of humanity or his "sushi/cold fish" nature his wife has accused him of.

This, then, is my reading of the film ...the replicants, well Rachael and Batty at least, are effectively more human or display more humanity than the human characters in the film. It doesn't matter how they came into being they are effectively a continuum of the strand of life that is human, not something separate from and outside of it. Personally, this is why it's been so easy to empathise and identify with Rachael. In the light of Roy and Rachaels origins, whether they be natural or synthetic, those origins can no longer sufficiently inform identity. As you say Andy our ideas about who is or isn't human are practically useless.

It is of course right after this scene when Scott editing the film for the Directors Cut inserts the prophetic unicorn sequence thereby opening the box containing Schrodingers live/dead cat and sets about destroying (for me at least) the wonderful ambivalence and ambiguity that cushions the story.

I don't know anywhere near enough about Blake (yet) and profess to have filtered my research into the story through the lenses of Milton and Shelley by way of Judith Kermans book Retrofitting Blade Runner as the introduction to both. i need to look again at the story with fresh Blake-ian eyes. ("if you could see what I have seen with your eyes"). Back then in the mid 90's I was scrabbling to create my own creation myth and I loved the line Mary Shelley gives The Creature "Did I request thee Maker from they clay to mould me man," for rather obvious reasons. But, clearly in the intervening 30 years the discussion has moved on and rest assured I will be taking another look. I never did manage to reconcile my origins back then, I just accepted the irony and got on with my life. Perhaps it's time to look again.

But, I do take issue with Scott because I just don't think he's that good at understanding his own creation, in a way he's just like Victor Frankenstein and Eldon Tyrell, he doesn't allow his creation to live it's own life either. In fact I have often wished the right film maker would come along and re make the film as Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? But I suspect those days when such a thing could have happened are over, for a while at least.

Good bit of writing Andy. I'll be checking out the other BR things you've written.

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